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Desire As Medicine Podcast
59 ~ Self Love: Teachings & Takeaways Part 2
Here we go...Part 2 of our 3 part self-love series of digestion and takeaways.
In this episode, we explore the courage it takes to show up for yourself, grounded in gratitude and openness. We discuss the transformative power of being fully present and allowing yourself to be seen by others.
Prioritizing self-care isn't just a luxury; it's a necessity for living authentically. We explore the often-overlooked importance of meeting our basic needs and how self-love manifests in our everyday actions. With insights from Clara, we compare the unconditional love shown to a newborn with how we should care for ourselves, emphasizing practical commitments like eating well, and getting enough sleep to maintain our energy and well-being.
Change is inevitable, and embracing it can lead to a deeper connection with our evolving selves. Join us in a conversation about self-forgiveness and the significance of choosing to engage in reality. We highlight the importance of nurturing ourselves emotionally and physically, living authentically, and rejecting societal pressures.
Our ongoing journey of self-love is a testament to the transformative power of desire, guiding us toward a more intimate and fulfilling life.
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Welcome to Desire is Medicine. We are two very different women living a life led by desire.
Speaker 2:Inviting you into our world. I'm Brenda. I'm a devoted practitioner to being my fully expressed true self in my daily life, motherhood relationships and my business Desire has taken me on quite a ride and every day I practice listening to and following the voice within. I'm a middle school teacher turned coach and guide of the feminine.
Speaker 1:And I'm Catherine, devoted to living my life as the truest and hopefully the highest version of me. I don't have children, I've never been married. I've spent equal parts of my life in corporate as in some down and low shady spaces. I was the epitome of tired and wired and my path led me to explore desire. I'm a coach, guide, energy worker and a forever student.
Speaker 2:Even after decades of inner work, we are humble beginners on the mat, still exploring, always curious. We believe that listening to and following the nudge of desire is a deep spiritual practice that helps us grow.
Speaker 1:On the Desires Medicine podcast. We talk to each other, we interview people we know and love about the practice of desire, bringing in a very important piece that is often overlooked being responsible for our desire, piece that is often overlooked being responsible for our desire.
Speaker 2:Welcome back listeners and friends to the Desire is Medicine podcast. Welcome Catherine, my amazing co-host. Hey, brenda, so happy to be here, so happy to be here with you again. We last week we talked about, we started reviewing our self-love series and what we thought was going to be one episode maybe 30 minutes, maybe 60 minutes started getting really, really juicy because we really wanted to digest this self-love series with each other and with our listeners. Because it's so juicy and where we left off at part one, this is going to be part two of digestion of the series. We left off on this really juicy piece of gratitude where we were both talking about how much this inquiry of what is self-love, how much it impacted us. You know, and you said you were forever changed and I a hundred percent concur.
Speaker 2:I personally feel so much softer since we've been in this inquiry of what is self-love and it's so funny because my word of the year is soft and who knew that it would come in in this way.
Speaker 2:But I feel this one of the biggest lessons that I've learned from this series that we've been doing is accepting myself exactly as I am. Accepting myself exactly as I am and there's such a softness to that because I don't always like everything the way it is or there's things that I want to improve on or whatever, make different or grow, but none of that can ever happen if I don't accept it and just accept all of myself, all of my parts, all of my messy. All the times I get reactive or say something in a snippy way, because that does happen, or the times where I'm like, oh, I don't like my belly today, don't like my belly today, um, and just being able to just say that here with you, that is that takes an enormous amount of love for myself to be able to do that, because I can sit here and be present with it and almost like laugh at it, in a way like, oh yeah, so we are digesting our episodes on self love, anything you want to say, catherine, before we dive back in.
Speaker 1:I think it's so beautiful what you're saying, it's so true. I think I know I ended last week with. I know I ended last week with gratitude and because of everything that we've learned from the podcast, that I have actually seen growth in your ability to share and my ability to share and our ability to be vulnerable with what is like just be an acceptance as we share, and that is growth in itself. I know when we listen back, I'm not the best one at listening back. Just as a extra side note, brenda listens back. I've had some things like I don't know, just other things on my plate, part of it, part of it not wanting to listen to my own voice. But I have listened back recently and I've said to myself wow, brenda and I have gotten a lot more transparent. We could call it vulnerable, but I feel this different sense of more ease as we share.
Speaker 1:And I just want to reiterate to listeners and friends here thank you so much for listening. It requires a certain amount of trust and acceptance trust in each other, in our conversation, acceptance for where we are and like there's a threshold as well, right For willingness, willingness to share where we are. So I just want to piggyback on what you said, brenda, and it is beautiful and we are forever changed. And there's also this added bonus that's coming from just having this podcast showing up to the podcast that we have grown in our ability to be with what is as you share, as we share it, and I want to say that's potentially one of the other benefits of digesting, of being with someone, being witnessed and witnessing as we pause to look at wait. What has what just happened here? Right?
Speaker 2:probably until our self-love series, episode 33,. This podcast was extraordinarily uncomfortable for me. It still is in a lot of ways and, like you said, listening to your own voice, um, and I am so committed to myself to keep showing up inside of the discomfort and that is the practice, that is everything, to just keep showing up. And it's so much easier to put it down and just say I messed up or I don't like it or I it's just too uncomfortable and you can, you could totally do that. But I personally am at a point in my life where I want to say like there's no time for that. But I don't mean it in a scarce way, I just mean it like I only want to back myself, like if I have a desire, I want to back myself in it, even if it's so uncomfortable and a lot of times it just is.
Speaker 2:But the willingness to show up and be there for it and sit through those uncomfortable pieces is absolutely everything. And I'm kind of looking at you and I like, oh, we have this podcast for in season two, this is, I don't know, maybe episode 59. I think, I'm guessing, I think so. Oh, yeah, look at them. They have a podcast, but we have stayed so committed to this through so many pieces of discomfort. And just to give you a little behind the scenes, we both shed a lot of tears, we both had a lot of confronting moments on this podcast behind the scenes and we've had for every episode there's probably three hours of discussion behind the scenes of us connecting or talking about what's new, or talking about what we think is next, or just chewing on the topics or our discomfort or this, this, this one thing that was said really kept me up at night you know.
Speaker 2:So I want to say to listeners if you have a desire, follow it. Sit with the discomfort, and I'm going to bring us back, because we just got on this beautiful little sidetrack of how uncomfortable it is and it does take self-love. We really have, through this process, learned to love ourselves and each other and keep showing up All right, so let's get back into it. We left off talking about Karen and don't buy old, and then we started sewing into how self-love fuels desire, which was a real turning point for us, into how self-love fuels desire, which was a real turning point for us. And the next one that I wanted to talk about, which is next on the list, which is I don't even remember the name of the episode, but it's loving yourself like you love other people.
Speaker 2:Why is it that we can love other people so well and yet not be willing to do the same thing for us? Why will we say yes to other people and truly, from the beauty of our hearts, want to show up for other people but not be willing to show up for ourselves? It's a really good inquiry. Okay, right. And in that episode I also love how you talked about loving yourself like a newborn baby. I remember you talking about the newborn baby and how they're just an absolute celebrity. Like we see a newborn baby and they're like, we're just like oh my God, you're the best thing on the planet and we feel so much love and our hearts explode and we cry. It's just so beautiful and can we love ourselves like that.
Speaker 1:It's just so intricate. That episode is 39. It's called Nurturing Self-Love to Unlock Possibility. You had asked what the name of that one was and it's interesting, right Even on this episode. Right now we're chatting and we're talking about self-love like, oh, you and I have learned how to love ourselves more with this series. I'm going to continue to bring us back to.
Speaker 1:Self-love is comprised of actions. It's not this airy fairy umbrella, it's not this like romantic love. Right now, when I thought to myself that I don't think I even saw that day when we were talking about it which is there's this little human that's somewhat helpless, right, can't feed itself, change itself, and we feel needed and important and it pulls on our heartstrings. I don't think we necessarily pull on our own heartstrings, like if I feel down or I'm not in the mood for something. I'm not like poor Catherine, she just doesn't want to show up for herself today. I'm not like, oh, catherine, you really should get yourself something to eat. You're hungry, but you're not in the mood. Oh, my goodness, I'd say bad things to myself about that. Like, maybe I'm being lazy, or why am I not? Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:Right, there's more negative self-talk, because I see myself as capable. So the action there is. Can I be capable and accepting and can I be honest with myself about what I really want? So I'm capable. I want to get up to go get something to eat. Let's say I'm hungry, so I have the. I want to get up to go get something to eat. Let's say I'm hungry, so I have the desire of food.
Speaker 1:I'm capable because I am an agile human being, adult, non-infant, and accepting. Oh, I may not be fully in the mood, but if I'm taking care of myself, then taking care of my needs trumps whether or not I'm in the mood. But if I'm taking care of myself, then taking care of my needs trumps whether or not I'm in the mood, and then showing up for myself. And then somebody would say well, clearly you love yourself. It's like, no, I am doing what is needed and required of myself for myself. Just wanted to break that down a little bit. But yes, we spoke about the newborn baby and I, when I think about self-love, I just want to remind us us and our listeners this is not just some Cupid with an arrow. There's more to Cupid here, so much more to Cupid.
Speaker 2:I want to go back to something you said because it's genius. I want to go back to something you said because it's genius Taking care of myself trumps being in the mood. That is everything. That is the self-commitment. And self-commitment is self-love being committed to taking care of yourself and your basic needs.
Speaker 2:And we're going to get into Clara in a moment, because I think she's the next one we're going to talk about, and she really talks about prioritizing taking care of yourself. I guess we're doing a natural little lead into that. She talks about prioritize sleep, prioritize food shopping, prioritize cooking, because that's prioritizing your energy, and if you don't have energy, you can't change anything. And then this really stood out to me that Clara said. She said sleep requires energy. Wow, I didn't know that. That's not something I ever thought about before, but it makes complete sense.
Speaker 2:So I just want to tie it back into what you said, which was so genius. You might recognize oh, I'm not in the mood to take care of myself, I'm not in the mood to get up and get food, but I'm hungry and for the life that I'm choosing to live, for the way I want to hold myself and following desire and to have the life where I feel like my best true self. That requires feeding myself, it requires getting out and getting on a walk, maybe when I don't feel like it, and then balancing that with oh. Some days maybe you're like, oh, I'm not going to take that walk and that is maybe the most self-loving thing and really feeling into it. But that can't be every day.
Speaker 1:I was also stumped by that phrase you need energy to sleep Because I remember during a time in my life when I was, I guess, experiencing what we would today call burnout, and I was tired and wired. I was so tired but yet I could not rest. The adrenaline in my system was just so high, probably cortisol so high, and I couldn't relax my system enough to sleep. Eventually, when I would fall asleep, I would be able to stay asleep and sleep, but I couldn't nap.
Speaker 1:During the day there were definitely signs letting me know oh, it's really hard to turn this car off, it's really hard to turn it off and it's easy to say, oh, I have ADHD or I'm just one of those very energetic souls, oh, I'm just an extrovert, like all the things we say to ourselves, to convince ourselves that the experience we're having is fairly normal, and not really pausing to say, hey, is there a potential here, that something's off? That wasn't something I really considered or had truly thought about until the whole world shut down the pandemic. Then, when I was finally able to rest, I said, oh, wow. Then I, when I was finally able to rest, I said, oh, wow, this sensation is different, this sleep is different, this rest is different. Until we can either give ourselves the experience, or life steps in and gives us an experience, it is for something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we just don't know what we don't know for sure. Yeah, I remember the great shutdown of the world and I remember at that time you leaning into rest and you talked about how you're. You know, you've just been busy and busy all these years working and that's really relatable. I had a similar experience and just learning to rest and what. I don't think that I equated it with self-love back then. I don't think that I did, I don't remember exactly, but it's a very self-loving act to have used that time to rest. I always joke and say I am still practicing rest from the great pandemic in 2020. Like, I'm still learning to rest and it's been one of the greatest gifts I can ever give myself. Anything else about Clara that you wanted to say? That was such a great episode. If you go on our Instagram, we have three carousels of quotes by Clara, because we had to categorize them and put them into three separate posts because there were so many and they're so, so juicy. So definitely go check that out.
Speaker 1:I think the biggest thing of Clara was or another big thing, there were just so many. It's like do we want to start creating podcast episodes after an episode so we can digest the full episode? That's how it feels sometimes really was like megaphone or really shining a super bright light on the fact that eating, nourishing yourself and the choices that you make as to what you're going to consume or not consume is really an act of love. And we see it when mothers feed their babies. Like, what are you giving your child? Are you feeding your child sugar and candy all day, or are you really nourishing your child? Likewise, are you really nourishing you? Because that is sort of one of the staples right of daily living activities. So, movement, sunlight, food, brushing your teeth they're just. We can't really function without them. They are the foundational pieces. Clara, for me, felt like she came in and just reminded us of what the foundation has to look like in order to have a strong home.
Speaker 2:I love that. I love that you're using the word foundation, because that feels really true when we're talking about what Clara transmitted that day and she is a genius on food and what to eat and she has a newsletter where she shares her recipes it's really beautiful and inspiring. It's a very self-loving thing to feed yourself. I am not quite where Clara is on feeding myself. I mean, everything she does is just a hundred percent magical. But part of loving yourself isn't beating yourself up because you're not there.
Speaker 2:You know you start where you are and you ask yourself what is the next best loving, kind thing I could do for myself? So maybe you're not growing your own food, but what can you do? And you start where you are and I think that's a really important piece that Clara talks about. All the time that I got from her and I get from following her Instagram and it's really loving because, you know, in the last digestion episode we talked about perfection. You know you could really take any of these things that we're talking about and then put like a perfection lens on top of it and then use it to beat yourself up. But please, please, don't do that. Listeners, please don't use any of this to beat yourself up. All of these things that we talk about are they're kind of like an example of what's possible, and then you start where you are and you just take baby steps to go where you want to be, and that, to me, is a very self-loving approach.
Speaker 1:Thanks so much for that reminder. That's a thousand percent accurate. We we're not looking for the ideal. It's where we are now and can we accept where we are. I think in that episode I'm not going to be quoting it correctly but all the organic food in the world isn't going to help if you're beating yourself up while you're feeding yourself the organic food. It's sort of like that, like reminding yourself that how you feel is just as important as what you're fueling yourself, feeding yourself with.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Yeah, I don't even remember where I saw it, but that idea that you're feeding yourself isn't just food, it's thoughts as well. You're literally feeding yourself with your thoughts.
Speaker 1:Your thoughts create your feelings. And there you are right.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Definitely circular.
Speaker 2:So definitely go back and listen to Clara another one of my favorites and I just want to say one thing before we move on to the next one which I also loved about Clara was she says do more earthing, be in nature, because she's really talking about energy and we can become depleted very easily, especially if we're not eating well, if we're not sleeping well.
Speaker 2:We're not quite there yet, but get your feet into the grass, be a tree hugger, spend time in nature, get the sun on your face. These are things that are also really regulating to your nervous system as well, and I think those are things that we can do. I know, ever since Clara's episode, and even before that, since it came into my consciousness, I just try to get my feet in the grass as much as possible. It feels really good and lately I've been doing yoga in the grass in the morning and sometimes my face like comes off of the yoga mat and my face is like in the grass and I'm smelling the grass and the dirt and it feels really good, smells so good. It just feels like primal and earthy in nature. Okay, time to move on. I am still not there yet.
Speaker 1:It's not because it's time to move on, it's because, for me, the grass I just listen to something for you to know about me. It's. I think of grass and I think of the dog's toilet, even though I've heard that being in the ocean. I love the ocean and people say it's the whale's toilet. I mean I, or a fish toilet, fish bowl, something about grass. I am near a park but I just see so many dogs and all I think about is like what has been on the soil before? And do I want to put my bare feet on it? And I am just I'll buy it. So I have these earthing sandals that have copper underneath it so that when I'm walking, I can earth at the same time. But clearly, when it's cold, it's not something that I'm going to use. For me, my favorite way to ground or to be in nature is the beach or sand. For me, it's a lot more comfortable than the dog's toilet.
Speaker 2:That's just my own.
Speaker 1:That's just my own thing.
Speaker 2:Look, this is a great perspective and I'm so glad you brought it in, because you do have to find what works for you. And maybe, if you live in the city, getting your feet in the grass is just gross right, but what can you do? You could put your face in your chest towards the sun if you want to. Right, but what can you do? You could put your face in your chest towards the sun if you want to right. You could bring yourself to the beach. But I love that perspective. That's really funny.
Speaker 1:You can touch a tree. Sometimes I touch a tree, I don't hug it, but I put just my hand on it yeah, my palm on the tree and just stay there for a good five, 10 minutes as an earthing practice.
Speaker 2:I love that. Well, I love that you do that good, five, 10 minutes as an earthing practice. I love that. Well, I love that you do that for five or 10 minutes. I sometimes make it to like two. Okay, you know, we all have to do what we can. And Clara said the earth has infinite energy. That's why I'm bringing it up, because it's a way to get energy. It's a way to receive energy by being open to nature. Because we are part of nature, we're not separate from it, even though our life has us be separate from it in many ways. It's good for you to break down that separation and get into nature more. It can actually be healthy and give you energy. That's what she was saying.
Speaker 1:It's true, I've been to some conferences where grounding was part of it and they showed us the viscosity of blood and 15 minutes of grounding actually changes the organization of your blood. But yes, that was interesting.
Speaker 2:That's very interesting.
Speaker 1:As a tidbit.
Speaker 1:So, I think I try, you know. So 15, 20 minutes should be more than enough for that effect, which is wonderful, Just as an aside. We didn't really talk about that part on. We have so many asides. We didn't really talk about that part on. We have so many asides, we didn't really talk about that on that episode. But we can start to move here.
Speaker 1:The next two episodes were Embracing 50, which was sort of my some of the reflections I've had this year, and then Reflecting and Accepting Our past, right Like being with the reality of what we have lived and learning to be okay with it. And now I have another aside. I know I've talked about this book, the Gap and the Gain, before, because it's been very special to me this year, and when Brenda and I were preparing for this sort of digestion, I was reminding her of this quote that I had read in that book where, basically, if you own the stories of your past, you own your future. We get to decide and frame our past in a way that serves us. It doesn't have to be in the doom and gloom way that potentially we experience it, and this is a game for a more advanced player, right? Totally.
Speaker 2:And also it's not only how you experienced it, but I've had huge experiences in my life where I had an experience and it was great and I loved it and I consciously chose it, and then it led to some really difficult circumstances. I spent a long time beating myself up for certain choices that I made. That felt really right at the time and I think it was something that I had to go through on my journey to learn self-compassion, to accept myself, accept my past self, to accept myself. Accept my past self, not take my current self and what I know now and project it back onto my past self. That is unkind and unfair. It's like saying to your two-year-old why can't you ride a bike, why aren't you going food shopping and why don't you have a job? No, it's not appropriate. So we can't do that. We learn and we grow and we change and we learn from the mistakes and from the experiences that we've had. So it's just nonsensical to go back and beat ourselves up for our choices. Yet I did it and I did it a lot and I was underneath it for a really long time and I got to the point where it was just way more painful to be collapsed and I saw that it was actually doing damage and I wasn't as present of a mother as I wanted to be because you can't be present and collapsed and beating yourself up at the same time and I kind of had to get a spine and lift myself up and it was only when I was ready to do it and it took me a long time.
Speaker 2:This is a very long process of learning to accept my past choices, even choices that I wanted to do, and reconciling that within myself and just being okay with oh, I made this choice, it felt good at the time. It had certain circumstances that caused hurt to people I love and to myself made it harder, and I can't change that. And can I accept it and can I take the lessons and, instead of hunching over in shame, can I stand up straight and just say it and be with it. And it's a very humble pose because you're basically saying I messed up, right, or maybe it wasn't even a mess up, maybe it's just more like, oh, I did this thing and it had consequences, right. But it's a humble pose to just stand up tall and just own it, just take responsibility and through that I learned so much self-compassion I have so much compassion for myself now, and so that's what we talked about in that episode. What's coming up for you, catherine?
Speaker 1:I'm thinking about what you're saying and I'm like oh, this is similar to when we talk about being with discomfort while we're going for our desires. You're talking about being with the discomfort of, oh, accepting who I was and that I did the best I could with what I had at that time, Not beating yourself up with today's knowledge for yesterday's actions, with today's knowledge for yesterday's actions. And if I were to try to rephrase this, we know that in the past we did the best we could with what we had. If we could have done it differently or if we knew better, we would have done better. That's the truth, right. And then we know that who we are right now is going to give us what we have right now. That's why we have what we have right now, because of who we are right now. And then if we're looking at tomorrow or looking what we want to create, then it's only logical that there will be discomfort in becoming that person, because change is required and acceptance is required.
Speaker 2:That's what it had me think about. Thank you for that. Thank you for breaking that down so beautifully. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2:Listen to the episode people. It's a really good one and I think it's a really important one to tie into, embracing change and growth at 50, which these are episodes that one is 50. And then, reflecting and accepting our past choices, is 51. They really go together because the older you get, the more life you've lived, the more potential mistakes you have made, and I'm calling them mistakes, but I don't, you know. There's also the belief that there are no mistakes.
Speaker 2:But just for this conversation, we're just going to say things didn't really go the way you wanted, right, Whatever you want to call them, and that's a good thing. It means you're living right, You're taking chances there's no guarantees and following your desire or living the life of your dreams, or taking a chance starting a business, traveling, buying something that you want, whatever it is, there's a risk involved. Yet we do that all the time. It's called living, living big, we want to live that way. And so what happens as you get older and you have a lot of those experiences and maybe some of them didn't go the way you wanted. How do you accept yourself? And so I think these things really go together.
Speaker 2:And you know, we touched on it with Karen's episode about not buying old episode about not buying old, like embracing change in our lives, Like our body changes. You know, we're not I don't know about anybody else out there but I can't do at 56 what I was able to do at 36 or 46. My body's just a little different and I'm still not buying old. But there's also a reality to it, Right, and it's just like reconciling where you want to be in it, Cause I don't want to be somebody who's growing old and hates myself or is embarrassed by my body, or I don't. I don't want to be that person. And so if I want to be proud and confident, proud and confident, what do I need to do in order to be a confident woman? It means I have to accept and love myself. I'm not willing to wear Spanx to hold in my belly. I don't even think it's important anymore. I kind of think it's kind of cool to have my belly and love her.
Speaker 1:I love that so much, yeah, yeah, it's true. All of these are sort of these episodes kind of weave into each other, right, um, loving ourselves like a newborn, feeding ourselves like a newborn in the way that we would a newborn. We would be afraid to not feed a newborn. We don't want the newborn to die, right? Likewise, we're probably thinking to ourselves oh, I'm not going to die because of not eating one meal, I'll be okay, I can fast for X amount of timeframe. Right, we're not in these same fragile growing bodies, but to a certain extent, we are making decisions that impact the energy that we have, and so we want to care for ourselves to the best of our ability with the knowledge that we have. So maybe that does mean earthing, eating regular meals or eating more healthfully. Moving and just as important as those things are, accepting where we are is also, I think, equally as important, because not being okay with what is just feels like torture and we have the power to not do that.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and it's a choice and it's also an awareness, which is why it's so important to have these conversations, because maybe someone out there needs to hear oh, I could just make a different choice. I could just I kind of picture it in my mind where you're looking out this window and you literally just turn your body, and where you're looking out this window and you've literally just turned your body and now you're looking out a completely different window, like you're just changing the way you're looking at something, and maybe you're just stuck and you needed a sign and you're like, oh my God, I can do that. I could just. It just could be that simple.
Speaker 1:That feels really good. It's almost has me think about the next few episodes. It has me think about okay, you're loving yourself, you're accepting yourself, you're being with what is you're being with your own reality, and you get to choose. What does this mean? Like, what am I accepting of myself, what am I wanting to better and what are the ultimate? What are some of the choices that I want to reconsider? Maybe I want to live my life and walk through the world differently than I am doing, like, is there a different way to just be?
Speaker 2:That's such a beautiful question. It's a perfect lead-in to the rest of our self-love episodes, which we're going to be tabling for another part three. Yes, that if you're following these digestion episodes, we planned the structure of them, but we did not decide how many we're going to talk about in each episode. So I'm just being transparent about our process here, that we're actually feeling the wrap up and the clunk. There's like a clunk. Can you feel it if you're listening and we say this with desire as well Like we don't push through and so we're not going to push through. We're going to demonstrate that.
Speaker 2:So we're going to close out here and do a part three for the rest of our self-love episodes, because there's so much to digest and we hope that you are enjoying this ride and getting some nuggets that can basically make your life better and help you lean in to the life that you want to live, because that's what desire is. Desire is that calling from within that brings you to something greater than yourself and grows you, and that's what we're here for on the Desire is Medicine podcast and we thank you for joining us and until next time, thank you for joining us on the Desire is Medicine podcast.
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